ROB MacCACHREN, No. 11 (First in class and first overall four-wheel vehicle to finish. MacCachren drove to race mile 470 and Andy McMillin finished.) — We started off running a good conservative pace. This morning was really slow and Ricky Johnson (Justin Matney No. 4) started first and he knew he had control of the race so he was going pretty slow. It was pre-run speed but it helped us with gas mileage so we were going to stretch our first pit to 200 miles. Ricky went out on the beach and the pace picked up a little bit. Unfortunately, I got a right-rear flat and lost a couple of spots. We worked our way back up to Apdaly Lopez’s dust and we had to pull into our pit which allowed Cameron Steele to get by and that hurt us. When the sun was getting ready to set, the wind stopped and the dust was hanging. I would be within 30 seconds of Cameron and then a few miles down the road I would be five minutes back because the dust hangs so badly in the silt. We struggled with that for about 150 miles. When I gave Andy the truck today I got on the radio and told him that the truck was in great shape. My job was to get the truck down the track, keep it in good shape and give him something good to deal with and if he needed to pick up time he could go do that. He ended up reeling the guys in and though he wasn’t able to pass them, he stayed close and never gave up. I had an early flat, got behind a little bit and over the radio my crew said to me “You can do this.” That gave me a lot of hope and kept me fighting. Winning the Bud Light SCORE Baja 1000 is like no other feeling in the world. When you win this race you know that you’ve accomplished something. We’ve got a very powerful team between the two of us and we both know how to win the race and the guys who work on the truck do what it takes. CO-DRIVER ANDY McMILLIN said: In the last 200 miles I knew we had to pass Apdaly to win and put some time on him as well. I was pushing really hard and the truck gave more than I really could ask from it. I was giving it my all with every gear hitting the rev limiter and really driving as hard as I could. My dad said while we were out there “Don’t give up because you never know what can happen before you get to the finish line.” Here we are at the finish and it looks like he was right. I think Rob and I are complementary drivers and have similar styles. Rob has a tremendous team of professionals that work on his truck and prepare for the races and it makes all the difference. When I get in this truck I feel next to invincible. Up until the very last corner I told myself that anything can happen out here. It is Mexico, it is the middle of the night and you just never know. You have to stay mentally focused out here because there are so many things happening so quickly that if you lose one second of concentration it could end your race.
CARLOS LOPEZ, No. 5 (Second in in class and second overall four-wheel vehicle to finish. Lopez shared driving duties with Juan C. Lopez.) — It was a very hard day and the competition in the SCORE Trophy Truck class is amazing. I started the race and battled with Robby Gordon and then with Rob MacCachren in the final miles. We had a front flat but, other than that we had a clean day. The race course was really rough and the weather conditions changed in different sections of the course. The course was technical and we had to work to take care of the truck.
EDUARDO LAGUNA, No. 17 (Third in class and third overall four-wheel vehicle to finish. Laguna shared driving duties with Josh Daniel.) — The silt beds were bad and the dust was hanging right above the hood and it was hard for us to see. We had to baby sit it and feel our way through. We also hit fog near race mile 110. It was hard because there is no light that will cut through that. CO-DRIVER JOSH DANIEL said: We drove about 800 miles without an intercom or communication so we had to wing it the whole way. The throttle started sticking a little bit and got progressively worse so trying to get it slowed down was pretty much a pain. We hustled in as fast as we could. These trucks are so fast and at night in Baja it is sketchy trying to drive off the GPS by myself without an intercom. I was looking out the corner of my eye for hand signals which was pretty gnarly.
TROY HERBST, No. 91 (Fourth in class and fourth overall four-wheel vehicle to finish. Herbst shared driving duties with Ryan Arciero.) — We started 16th off the line but we worked our way up to ninth and it was really tough to get around some of these other guys. We got held up in the dust for quite a long time. Generally, you get a nice breeze off the Pacific so the dust will move but it was still as could be so we didn’t get a break. CO-DRIVER RYAN ARCIERO said: We had to be patient not to get stuck in the silt and make our way through it. Anytime you have silt in the Bud Light SCORE Baja 1000 it is never fun and especially at night with no wind. For us it was survival. How do you be patient, get through it and to the other side so you can check it off the list and move on down the race?
TIM HERBST, No. 19 (Fifth in class and fifth overall four-wheel vehicle to finish. Herbst shared driving duties with Larry Roeseler.) — It was a pretty good day and fairly trouble free except for a power steering pump problem. We didn’t have any problems in the silt beds, so we got lucky today and sometimes you don’t get lucky.
GUS VILDOSOLA JR., No. 21 (Sixth in class and sixth overall four-wheel vehicle to finish.) — The truck ran perfectly with absolutely no problems all day long. I just had a couple of mental lapses and had a few flats early and Bryce Menzies got by me. We got stuck in the silt beds at race mile 295 and you really have to make a mistake to get stuck. We couldn’t see anything and went right into the silt bed and buried the rear end. We lost about 45 minutes and that really put us out of contention. We battled back and tried to do everything we could but at that point it was too late. Obviously we are very disappointed.
STEVEN EUGENIO, No. 1 (Seventh in class and seventh overall four-wheel vehicle to finish. Eugenio shared riding duties with Armin Schwarz.) — When I got in we were a bit behind and stuck in the dust and then I ended up getting stuck in the silt. We had a clean run going but there was a rock sticking out of a sand wash that I didn’t see and it snapped our rim. CO-DRIVER ARMIN SCHWARZ said: Right off the start it was really good. We were making up some time and getting some guys in front of us. The truck was awesome and running perfectly. We were in a bottleneck near race mile 290. I think Tavo (Vildosola) got stuck in the main line and everybody tried to make their way around. We got held up and lost some time there. We lost about 10 or 15 minutes but in a race like this losing 10 or 15 minutes can happen anywhere. With a little bit of luck, I think we could have won one of the races this year and with some luck maybe that changes next year.
DAN McMILLIN, No. 23 (Eighth in class and eighth overall four-wheel vehicle to finish. McMillin shared driving duties with Chuck Hovey.) — Something broke on the engine at race mile 20 and all of the fuel poured out of the engine so we were stopped for 30 minutes while all the trucks got by us and a couple of buggies. We got started again and caught all of the buggies on the beach and played catch up all day. Chuck got in the truck and something with the throttle pedal was acting up so he only had about 60 percent throttle. The fog coming into the finish was pretty bad.
MARK WEYHRICH, No. 9 (Ninth in class and ninth overall four-wheel vehicle to finish. Weyhrich shared driving duties with Mark Weyhrich.) – Gary did all the heavy lifting today. I only drove about 115 miles because I got super sick. When I got sick I slid off the road and got one left-front flat. Gary had a hell of a run. He usually puts us in the top five when we get in the truck at the Bud Light SCORE Baja 1000 and he was on pace to do exactly that. It was just bad luck today. CO-DRIVER GARY WEYHRICH said: We had a great run going and I came around a corner in a silt bed and Tavo (Vildosola) was stuck there with a car behind him and I think it cost us the race. It’s no fun driving the second half when you know you can’t win. It was tight and twisty and there was no wind.
CAMERON STEELE, No. 16 (Tenth in class and tenth overall four-wheel vehicle to finish. Steele shared driving duties with Pat Dean.) — We had a really good run going, the truck was flawless and I never had a flat all day. Our timing had us leading at some points and second at some points. When we were going up through San Felipe we were going for the win and I had a steering pump expire. That was a hard one to swallow and when we turned the truck off to change it we couldn’t get it restarted. It took us an hour to get somebody out there to help us. Pat Dean did an exceptional job and kept us in the top three or four.
ZAK LANGLEY, No. 50 (Langley shared driving duties with Rick D. Johnson.) — It was a battle. Urupan was rough, the coast was foggy and the Catavina area was nothing but hanging dust. It is good to be here. CO-DRIVER RICK D. JOHNSON said: It was a perfect day and the truck was perfect. The truck is getting better and better and is a pleasure to drive. The Bud Light SCORE Baja 1000 is amazing for the stuff you see out there. It was foggy and we were going about five miles an hour in the wash it got so bad. You just never know how it is going to change.
HEIDI STEELE, No. 14 (Steele shared driving duties with Cody Parkhouse and Brian Parkhouse.) — We had a situation with our alternator in the middle of the course and then 50 miles into my section we grenaded the transmission and the starter went out so it cost us a couple of hours.
JON WALKER, No. 189 (First in class. Walker shared driving duties with Corey Keyser.) — There was a lot of beating and banging off the start for about 150 miles. We were by ourselves a little bit and went right through the silt beds and passed a couple of stuck SCORE Trophy Trucks. A lot of work goes into this race and this was the payday. CO-RIDER COREY KEYSER said: We got into the car in a great position and we just kept working on it and eventually got into the lead. We just kept working on the lead by staying consistent. For us the hardest part of the course was the sand whoops constantly pounding on us. We tried to be patient and keep a good speed through there without losing control of the car. We were happy to see those go away and get to some smooth sand.
SHELBY REID, No. 168 (Second in class. Reid shared driving duties with Danny Ebberts and Dale Ebberts.) — I’m glad we got it here because it was tough. We pre-ran and pre-ran and I thought I was prepared for everything and we got out there at night and everything looked completely different. We had some flats and broke a wheel in half. It got wrapped around the rotor so it took us a while to get it off. We were in the lead at that point but got passed while changing the wheel. We were trying to play catch up right after I got in the car. It was rocky in my section and I hit one of them hard.
BRIAN WILSON, No. 153 (Third in class.) — CO-DRIVER BRAD WILSON said: Brian had a great run off the start moving around between first, second and third and he kept the car alive. We had some issues and lost the right rear brakes but other than that we were just trying to get it home. Running in Class 10 was awesome and we had a great time. This is our first time racing a Class 1 car and what better a place than the Bud Light SCORE Baja 1000 to race it. It was a great time and the car is fast. Everything clicked today when we were driving and we got to bring it home.
PAT McCARTHY, No. 147 (Fourth in class. McCarthy shared driving duties with Rob Harmon, Langley Kersenboom and Rob Smith.) — CO-DRIVER LANGLEY KERSENBOOM said: It was going really good until race mile 760 when we split open a rear swing arm and pulled over right away before breaking anything else. We welded it up and made it the rest of the way.
AARON AMPUDIA, No. 1636 (First in class. Ampudia shared driving duties with Alan Ampudia.) — My brother Alan started the race fourth off the line and gave it to me with a six-minute lead. I had a flat in the fish camp loop and another one in San Felipe but those were the only issues we had. We brought it home with a strong lead and we clinched a championship.
J. DAVID RUVALCABA, No. 1609 (Second in class. Ruvalcaba shared driving duties with Esteban Cruz.) — CO-DRIVER ESTEBAN CRUZ said: We were running in second all day until we got stuck in the silt beds which took us about 15 minutes to dig out of. We got rolling again and another car had passed us while we were in the silt but we were able to pass them back. We had a brake caliper go bad on us from San Felipe to the finish so that cost us time.
WES McKENZIE, No. 1647 (Third in class. McKenzie shared driving duties with Cisco Bio and George Jimenez.) — We were running second and third all night long and there was a car behind me in the technical stuff so I started pushing it until we hit a curve at 75 miles per hour and double barrel rolled it. He had us and I should have pulled back and let him come up. It was stupid because you don’t push it here because you roll the car and lose parts. What a great country and great people and if people don’t come down here to witness this spectacle and what it takes to get through this race, they should.
CESAR FISCAL, No. 1644 (Sixth in class. Fiscal shared driving duties with Carlos Juarez.) — We had four flat tires today and some problems with the intercom. The silt beds were gnarly out there.
VICTOR CESENA, No. 528 (First in class. Cesena shared driving duties with Gerardo Iribe.) — The silt bed was really hard because I have an old helmet and I keep getting dirt in the helmet. More than that though, our class starts way in the back of the field and the track becomes so bad that you have to be really smart or you won’t make it. Some guys are really aggressive and you don’t want to fall into that kind of thing. There are winners and there are champions and sometimes it is better to build points.
HERNANDO MARTINEZ, No. 564 (First in class. Martinez shared driving duties with Ruben Best and Miguel Rodriguez.) — The silt beds were very difficult and there were a lot of rocks. It was a great course and we were strategic and did it right. It was a fun race. It is amazing to win in our home city. We have been racing for a long time and this is our first Bud Light SCORE Baja 1000 win and it feels great.
CODY REID, No. 1068 (First in class. Reid shared riding duties with Mike Majesky and Louis Chamberland.) — We had a few little mechanical issues and we made a few mistakes early on but nothing that was too big of a deal. Louis had some injector issues and we got that swapped out and going again. Then it happened again when I got in the car. Once we got that fixed we chased back down the car in front of us and here we sit. CO-RIDER MIKE MAJESKY said: At about 150 miles into my section I caught an owl right in the face mask. He stayed in the car with me for another 150 miles sitting between the two seats. We got stuck in a rain rut and we let him go and he seemed okay. I had two flats at once which isn’t good but fortunately we were right by the highway near our chase crew. It was a trying day. We all got stuck and we all had issues but nothing kept us down for more than 20 minutes or a half hour at a time. Every time we got in the car we made the time back up and just kept pushing.
MORGAN LANGLEY, No. 1011 (Second in class. Langley shared driving duties with Kory Halopoff and Paul Keller.) — CO-DRIVER KORY HALOPOFF said: We hit a rock in the silt and damaged the lower arm on the driver’s side and later we just limped it in after breaking a right rear CV, but other than that we had a fun time.
J.J. SCHNARR, No. 1062 (Third in class. Schnarr shared driving duties with Andrew Myers.) — I had two silt bed catastrophes. We got stuck in a bottleneck and decided to skip a VP and take an alternate around and then we got hit in another bottleneck at race mile 250. I love Baja and I’ll be back next year. CO-DRIVER ANDREW MYERS said: We had a little bit of Baja dust but we are here.
LUIS SALGADO, No. 1088 (Fifth in class. Salgado shared driving duties with Matt Loiodice and Sergio Salgado.) — CO-DRIVER MATT LOIODICE said: We got tied up in the bottleneck at race mile 50 and then we lost brakes at mile 110 so we ran without rear brakes basically the whole race. We had the throttle linkage binding up as well.
MARIO ALCALA, No. 1201 (First in class. Alcala shared driving duties with Jose Robles and Juan Mayoral.) — CO-DRIVER JOSE ROBLES said: We got stuck two times but that was the only problem we had.
CESAR PINUELAS, No. 1210 (Second in class. Pinuelas drove the entire race.) — I had three flat tires and I spent an hour in a silt bed.
ROD HALL, No. 8101 (First in class. Hall shared driving duties with Chad Hall and Damien Michelin.) — I think this is my 49th Bud Light SCORE Baja 1000. I think if we get a win today it will be 23 Baja 1000 class wins and one overall win which was in my little Bronco. You don’t have to get old just because you’ve been around a long time. I can’t talk much anymore and there are other things I can’t do much anymore but I can still sit in a driver’s seat and make this thing go down the road. We loved the silt. If the silt beds are deep enough and long enough we go from last to first. CO-DRIVER CHAD HALL said: It was wild out there last night and I think we drove into the ocean because I’m just not sure where we went. There was a lot of fog and a lot of silt. We blocked the radiator with silt and pumped all the water out of it but other than that we had a trouble-free race.
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LARRY CONNOR, No. 871 (First in class. Conner shared driving duties with Sean Backus and Jason Ruane.) — We had one or two small incidents and you’ll probably see the first one on YouTube. We are five for five and it isn’t by chance but rather by hard work, dedication and people. CO-DRIVER JASON RUANE said: Surprisingly enough with everybody talking about what a freeway it was going to be, the course was actually very difficult. I’m happy with where we are at and the team is moving in the right direction.
JIM ANDERSON, No. 888 (Second in class. Anderson shared driving duties with Andre Tomba and Sandy Hall) — CO-DRIVER SANDY HALL said: It was really challenging and I was handed a car that was really working. The way up through San Felipe was rougher than normal. We had a throttle problem and we really couldn’t get 100 percent with the car and there was nothing we could do about it. We checked it at a fuel stop and messed with it but we just had to keep moving with what we had. All in all, it turned out great and we got to the end coming back from being down in seventh place and being stuck in the silt.
WILLIE HEDRICK JR., No. 845 (Fourth in class. Hedrick shared driving duties with his father Willie Hedrick.) — We had a great time, everybody did their job and I’m really grateful for everybody who is down here. CO-DRIVER WILLIE HEDRICK SR. said: My son started off as my co-pilot when he was 16 and every year since he’s been trying to push me out of the seat so finally he got the chance to do it this year. I’m so proud of him. He drove the whole course conservatively. For his first race it was awesome.
TERRY HUI, No. 1971 (First in class. Hui shared driving duties with Wayne Matlock.) — We had a little bit of a visibility issue along the coast right before dark but everything went good and thank you to SCORE for organizing such a great race. I am a beginner and this is the second time I’ve entered a race and without the side-by-side industry I wouldn’t be in the race. It has been a game changer. CO-DRIVER WAYNE MATLOCK said: We didn’t have too many problems really. The first part of the race was gas-and-go and we bent a wheel but other than that it was routine maintenance. We started out a little bit behind but we were able to pick them off. When I got into the car we were about an hour and a half down but we made it up.
BRANDON SCHUELER, No. 1932 (Second in class. Schueler shared driving duties with Keith Redstrom and Blake Van de Loo.) — CO-DRIVER BLAKE VAN DE LOO said: We had a great car and we didn’t turn a wrench on it all day and didn’t have any flat tires. Everything went perfect.
JUSTIN LAMBERT, No. 1908 (Third in class. Lambert shared driving duties with Justin Sheakley and Victor Herrera.) — We tore it up pretty good but she came through for us. We had a bubble in tire so we changed that but it didn’t go flat. We had to change a front differential, change a front axle and we got a crack in the frame so we had to strap up the frame in the front. There were definitely some battles out there. I didn’t get in the car until race mile 550 but even just watching the tracker, there were some battles going on and I could hardly sleep last night. Once I got in the car we passed two other UTVs and I know we where chasing second. We didn’t want to kill the car so we kind of took it easy for the last forty miles or so.
BOB BOWER, No. BC2 (First in class. Bower shared driving duties with Brad Lovell, Kyle Tucker, Bill Weber and Brian Finch.) — I would not want to be a right front tire on this car because that tire went through a terrible day but it is still there and is the same one we left town with yesterday. CO-DRIVER BRAD LOVELL said: I couldn’t be prouder of all the guys that put this together and we faced a lot of adversity out there. We had some big mechanical issues and we all worked together. Pre-running down here together we all picked up something from each other. There was a point where I didn’t think we were going to be up here so to finish and be the guys that come out on top is pretty exciting.
SHANNON CAMPBELL, No. 4405 (First in class. Campbell shared driving duties with Wayland Campbell.) — CO-DRIVER WAYLAND CAMPBELL said: The race was awesome. I’ve never been on a course like this and the terrain changes so much. It was awesome to be down here to experience all of this. I’ve never experienced whoops like San Felipe before and it was incredible. I’m going to have to go find a new kidney. I loved doing it and this was the first time I’ve had a driver change with my dad.
JEFF PROCTOR, No. 201 (First in class. Proctor shared driving duties with Jason LaFortune and Sage Marie.) — We brought a unique engine package to this race. It is a 3.5 liter twin-turbo motor and it didn’t skip a beat all day long. No flat tires or any mechanical issues at all. We had a little bit of an issue in the silt early in the day but we got through it. We are stoked to be here.
COLTON UDALL, No. 5x (First in class and first overall motorcycle to finish. Udall started and rode to race mile 133. Justin Jones rode to race mile 356. Mark Samuels rode to race mile 563. Udall finished.) — Taking back the 1x is a lot of hard work and our team has been working super hard all year to get this done so it feels amazing to be here at the finish line with a giant time gap. I started ninth off the line and kept pushing away and got by a bunch of guys except for Shane Esposito on the 45x (Francisco Arredondo.) Justin passed him when he crashed and we have been leading ever since. We nailed our pits, hung our lights perfectly and everything went really good. Surprisingly any issue we had we patched up really well. It’s about riding continuous miles and staying focused because if your head breaks down you make a giant mistake and the bike gets bent up. Next year we are coming back to race SCORE and probably some stuff in the United States but we may have a huge announcement coming in a few months. CO-RIDER JUSTIN JONES said: Myself and Shane Esposito (45x Francisco Arredondo) had a really good battle along the coast but unfortunately he went down and I capitalized on that. I pulled a small gap through some of the tight sections but he had some better lines and caught me through the rocks toward the end but I held the physical lead which was important coming into the silt. Shane and I battled a good 60 miles. It was awesome. We have a great team and great pits and it was a flawless race. CO-RIDER MARK SAMUELS said: I started on the 3x bike this morning and rode to Santo Tomas, got off and then chased down to north of Catavina where I got on the 5x and did the Catavina loop to Puertecitos Road. My section was pretty technical and it changed quite a bit from when I pre-ran it a few days ago. There were some gnarly rocks that popped up and the silt got pretty gnarly over the last few days too. When I got on the bike the 45x was right behind us and I’m not sure if they serviced or not but by the time I got around the Catavina loop I had a 15-minute lead. It was a perfect morning for a Bud Light SCORE Baja 1000 because it was chilly but not cold like it often can be riding out of Ensenada. There was a brush fire down in my section about a mile off the course on the other side of a hill. There was pretty thick smoke and I was glad when I broke out of it because I was breathing it in and getting sick.
RICKY BRABEC, No. 1x (Second in class and second overall motorcycle to finish. Max Eddy Jr., Justin Morgan and Dave Pearson shared riding duties.) — CO-RIDER JUSTIN MORGAN said: It was a solid run and the bike didn’t hit the ground one time. We all rode about 80 percent. We thought it would work by coming on strong at the end but the leaders got too far out in front.
FRANCISCO ARREDONDO, No. 45x (Third in class and third overall motorcycle to finish. Arredondo shared riding duties with Ryan Penhall, Shane Esposito and Roberto Villalobos.) — It was a great team and we had an amazing race today. We are lucky that everything turned out okay and that we are here at the finish line.
CHAD THORNTON, No. 111x (First in class and ninth overall motorcycle to finish. Thornton shared riding duties with Mark Weirich, Grant Statley, Travis Flateau, Tim Fitzpatrick and Alan Cameron.) — We started off first in our class, led all day and the guys were smooth. We were pretty much error free all day but we got lost coming back to the finish line. We talked about putting the GPS on the bike just to come to the finish but we got in a rush and didn’t do it. We rode smart and rode smooth all day.
CHRISTOPHER SCHULTZ, No. 301x (Third in class. Schultz shared riding duties with Geoff Hill, John Bach and John Canton.) — We spent about 12 hours in a silt bed last night which is what gobbled up our time. John Canton was the one out there battling by himself. I rode the last 20 miles without a clutch lever.
COLLIE POTTER, No. 411x (First in class. Potter shared riding duties with Dave Glass, Jason Miller, Sterlyn Rigsby, Steve Hersted, Dennis Smith, Robert Lightfeldt and Louie Franco.) I had trouble with the finish because I didn’t have tracks to follow and it wasn’t marked very well. It was a section that wasn’t open for pre-running so that made it tough.
KYLE ABNEY, No. 444x (Fourth in class. Abney shared riding duties with Paul Luce, Scott Eck, Herman Johnson and Joe Marquez.) — There was a really treacherous section out there with all the silt and Scott Eck rode that. He did a great job but had a couple of crashes but got back up with just a bent lever.
MARC PRINCE, No. 501x (First in class. Prince shared riding duties with Eric McKenna, Steve Williams, Doug Smith, Bob Johnson and Mike Johnson.) — CO-RIDER STEVE WILLIAMS said: We had a couple of issues with the lights but overall the bike ran great and the team did well. We lost the lights at one point and had to change a regulator. We had a little bit of fog coming to the finish. We are glad to have finished and we won the championship so we will be 500x next year.
RICHARD JACKSON, No. 611x (First in class.) — CO-RIDER ROBERT KOCH said: We had a pretty uneventful ride. Right in the last section somebody changed an arrow and sent us down the wrong road so I had to turn around and come back when I saw I was on the wrong one on the GPS.
JEFF BENRUD, No. 715x (Second in class.) — I’m glad to finally be here. It is exponentially more difficult doing it by yourself. The last two years I had one teammate each time and I rode 850 miles but it was much easier. That break helps tremendously. I’m ready to have a couple of beers, take a shower and go to bed.
JAVIER ROBLES JR., No. 1a (First in class and fifth overall motorcycle to finish. Robles Jr. shared riding duties with Josh Row, Felipe Velez and Jorie Williams) CO-RIDER JOSH ROW said: It was really rough and rocky with different terrain but we had a flawless day and zero issues with the bike which is exactly what we wanted. We wanted a smooth race and to get to the finish first and we were able to do that. The silt was challenging because it changed after days of trucks pre-running. We come through on a pre-run and then by race day it is a totally different deal. Trying not to silt the motor is the biggest deal.